Curse

mrmango · Mar 07, 2008, 12:42 AM // 00:42

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Originally Posted by Creeping Carl

I think the Song of Restoration nerf is a little bit harsh, basically increasing the average energy use by 33% with no significant average healing increase from it's previous version.

BUT you don't see me whining about PVE being ruined. You won't see me throwing fits about how PVP screwed the game. Because all that is garbage.

Sometimes I think my PVE peers are a bunch of whining weetards. Remember, we're not all like that.

Thanks for being intelligent. Appreciate it I do.

jiggles · Mar 07, 2008, 12:43 AM // 00:43

I wasnt calling Snow elite, sorry if thats unclear. I was referring to everyone who constantly goes on about how easy PvE is, if it were really as simple as you all make out no one would do it ectos would be worth about 2k, again and so called 'elite' areas would be empty as people would be able to solo most of it/ grab a build off wiki give it to a hero and go clear it in 20mins. since everything apart from giving builds from wiki to heroes is untrue does this not tell you anything.

Personally i dont play pvp to many people thinking theyre better than everyone else therefore all these buffs do is help me out. Suppose ill have to thank the 'elite' community for whining to anet about how a skill is overpowered/underused instead of getting over it and not using it.

cheers

Numa Pompilius · Mar 07, 2008, 12:45 AM // 00:45

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Originally Posted by mrmango

The mesmers would really be "saved" in PVE with that. and it'd be another ursan debate. oh boy oh boy!

Personally I'd have less against stealing monster skills than I have against Ursan. Part of the problem with Ursan is that it's so *dumb*, it destroys all professions, removes the need to learn to compose a skillbar, and encourages playing like a clueless rusher wammo. Stealing monster skills, on the other hand, is just... well... a bit overpowered.

Witchblade · Mar 07, 2008, 12:47 AM // 00:47

omg ^^ [email protected] Yourself ^^

HawkofStorms · Mar 07, 2008, 12:47 AM // 00:47

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Originally Posted by Koudelka

I think I like this update after all.

HOLY CRAP!
I think I know what the next update will be/was.

Numa Pompilius · Mar 07, 2008, 12:49 AM // 00:49

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Originally Posted by Illfated Fat

My point was that when I play with my PvE guild, we do fine.

Yeah, but then you ARE using Ursan.

Witchblade · Mar 07, 2008, 12:51 AM // 00:51

what's the turtle thingy?
just browsing atm, i'll reread this later

Kemal X · Mar 07, 2008, 12:51 AM // 00:51

Stealzoring monster skills iz fun joo unterstood? Well yeah, it is fun, but I bet that Anet will take it off.. bad bad Anet xD That is actually little something I wouldn't mind to have, was fun to use Searing Breath against GD. Pity I have already beaten all norn guards

As for update in the other hand, I don't get why people are whining so much about it. Yeah, your builds might be ruined, but hey, lets use our nut sized brains and think something else. Or wait till PvX will think something. Anyways, this was killer for me too but at least I'm not /ragequit

jiggles · Mar 07, 2008, 12:52 AM // 00:52

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Originally Posted by Witchblade

what's the turtle thingy?
just browsing atm, i'll reread this later

Simple Thievery: decreased casting time to .25 seconds; increased recharge to 10 seconds; decreased duration to 5..20 seconds; changed functionality to: "Interrupt target foe's action. If that action was a skill, that skill is disabled for 5..20 seconds, and Simple Thievery is replaced by that skill."

Jenn · Mar 07, 2008, 12:54 AM // 00:54

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

Yeah, but then you ARE using Ursan.

I think someone needs to get off the Know-It-All train

Didn't you learn when you were young not to believe everything you see? My avatar is a rebuttle to all the whining about the skill. I am actually not entirely in favour of the Ursan skill. I think it has its time and place, but so does every other elite skill. You are so thoroughly mistaken about me that I can't even be angry :P Do you really feel that comfortable making uninformed judgments about people? I am sorry for your attitude - you may have been a player I might've enjoyed playing with in game.

Creeping Carl · Mar 07, 2008, 12:55 AM // 00:55

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Originally Posted by mrmango

Thanks for being intelligent. Appreciate it I do.

Thanks man!

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Originally Posted by jiggles

I wasnt calling Snow elite, sorry if thats unclear. I was referring to everyone who constantly goes on about how easy PvE is, if it were really as simple as you all make out no one would do it ectos would be worth about 2k, again and so called 'elite' areas would be empty as people would be able to solo most of it/ grab a build off wiki give it to a hero and go clear it in 20mins. since everything apart from giving builds from wiki to heroes is untrue does this not tell you anything.

So you base your judgement on whether or not PVE is hard on the price of ectos? I guess you forgot about drop rates, which have nothing to do with ease or difficulty of the mobs themselves. Or the fact that they're limited to a couple of areas in where they drop? Or how about demand?

Except for a few areas, the MAJORITY of PVE is indeed easy.

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Originally Posted by jiggles

Personally i dont play pvp to many people thinking theyre better than everyone else therefore all these buffs do is help me out. Suppose ill have to thank the 'elite' community for whining to anet about how a skill is overpowered/underused instead of getting over it and not using it.

cheers

I'm not a PVP'er but I think the PVE community whines too much about balance. Especially when you knew damn well what kind of game GW is when you bought the game. Did you not think there would be skill balances?

And are you people really having that much difficulty playing the game because of nerfs?

Witchblade · Mar 07, 2008, 12:56 AM // 00:56

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Originally Posted by jiggles

Simple Thievery: decreased casting time to .25 seconds; increased recharge to 10 seconds; decreased duration to 5..20 seconds; changed functionality to: "Interrupt target foe's action. If that action was a skill, that skill is disabled for 5..20 seconds, and Simple Thievery is replaced by that skill."

just what i had in mind, but you never know with ANet updates

HawkofStorms · Mar 07, 2008, 12:58 AM // 00:58

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Originally Posted by Zorian Direspell

As this update basically kills all of my favorite builds for several classes, all at once, for no justifiable reason, I have to say I hate it. Some of the updates were understandable, and I'm fine with most of the buffs. But the nerfs are absurd. This is reminding me (more and more) of the Guild Wars that existed long ago when eles sucked ass and warriors were the only real damage dealers. That was boring as hell. A-net needs to learn that not every buff needs to be coupled with a nerf. I'm all for making mesmers more relevant though, so kudos on the buffs there. But what the hell is up with the necromancer skill changes?

All in all I'm deeply disappointed.

If you builds all lynchpin around a couple of skills, don't you agree then that they are overpowered?
Adapt people.

Racthoh · Mar 07, 2008, 12:59 AM // 00:59

All of my PvE builds got better.
Observer mode will be interesting for a little while (hopefully).

Sweet.

sindex · Mar 07, 2008, 01:00 AM // 01:00

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

HOLY CRAP!
I think I know what the next update will be/was.

Yeah you’re right, but I am taking screenshots of this. It will be the most memorable moment to me in Guild Wars. It’s something I suggested awhile back ago when they talked about a overall buff to mesmers in PvE. So I am trying to enjoy this as much as I possibly can (while it lasts).

Witchblade · Mar 07, 2008, 01:00 AM // 01:00

^Heroes are happy here as well
^No change for most of my stuff
v Watch Yourself... why ^^

Kashrlyyk · Mar 07, 2008, 01:01 AM // 01:01

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Originally Posted by Stockholm

That is the player base as far as the Dev's are concerned, the rest of us are just stupid sheep that pay for their salerys and don't count.

Learn from it and stop supporting them then.

nomoretacos4u · Mar 07, 2008, 01:01 AM // 01:01

i woulda showed you guys what happened after but it dced me

edit:: i stole gloat too but then it crashed my game instead

jiggles · Mar 07, 2008, 01:02 AM // 01:02

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Originally Posted by Creeping Carl

Thanks man!

So you base your judgement on whether or not PVE is hard on the price of ectos? I guess you forgot about drop rates, which have nothing to do with ease or difficulty of the mobs themselves. Or the fact that they're limited to a couple of areas in where they drop? Or how about demand?

Hey remember that time when w/rt was over used to oblivion and ectos went right from 11k - 10k to 3k?, god damn being a w/rt made parts of the UW easy.

now if all of pve was like this (this being a specific build that could kill just about most things in every area) everything but HoH drops would be cheap

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Originally Posted by Creeping Carl

I'm not a PVP'er but I think the PVE community whines too much about balance. Especially when you knew damn well what kind of game GW is when you bought the game. Did you not think there would be skill balances?

im kind of hoping this bit wasnt directed at me.

Omega Precept · Mar 07, 2008, 01:05 AM // 01:05

This is such crap, I would rant but don't have the flippn' energy..Instead i am just going to curse to myself a bit.... or wait I know, there is only one think that can piss me of more>>> thinking about Loot Scale!